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. let's preserve freedom and choice and health care. fine, keep the obama care health plans in place. give those as an option for individuals. but we should also give individuals the freedom to choose a plan that doesn't have the mandate of coverages because that is what is driving up the cost. >> it doesn't work. >> it's not going to work anyway. but if you want to set this up as an insurance pool which means you're paying insurance and you're a man and you don't want to have paternity coverage, you've got to pay it too. that's the way it works out. and i'm not arguing whether this should have been done or not, that's the only way it works. >> it's not working out. >> but that's -- what you're talking about is -- >> does anybody believe the cost curve has been bent down? i mean -- >> there are arguments. i'm not picking up the flag and waving with this, but if you have peter orszag or somebody else come in, they will say, yes, it will bend. >> it is also because of what was happening with things like health savings accounts and higher deductible plans, which is really where the move
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